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Glammo



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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 10:08 am    Post subject: Skills Reply with quote

FIRST!!!!!!!!!!





Definitely read the skills section. There are enough changes to justify a throurough read-through.

I'll talk about a few things when I'm done with the whole section.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This topic sucks. Form an opinion about things!
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will, make me a mod so I can teach Blahmas here a lesson about trolling!

I'm going to pink your lettering SO PINK........!
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can't troll without mod privileges, you don't deserve the title!

Also: SKILLS!
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That doesn't even make any sense.

Will, make his posts say that he loves 4e!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, don't drag me into this!! Besides, pinking his lettering is just playing DIRECTLY INTO HIS HANDS.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike is right, there are a LOT of changes, besides the condensation of skills and changes to class lists. Here are some things that jumped out at me.

    -Synergy bonuses are removed.

    -Finding tracks no longer requires the Track feat. (Finding difficult traps stills requires Trapfinding, but dollars to donuts this condition is removed for PF Final.)

    -Use Rope was removed. Unlike other skills, even profession/craft, this is something that really saw no use beyond third level in my experience. Maybe if rules for lassos come out, we'll need to put it back...

    -New skill= FLY. It's pretty funny that the game explicitly forbids you from taking ranks unless you have some means of flight. Similarly, you may not take ranks in swim if you live in a desert.

    -Either I don't understand how to use the "list" function, or it's useless. Maybe both.

I think when we start playing, we should make it a habit to look up each Skill use, even if we THINK we know how it works. That doubles for spells.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, plus there are many smaller differences you may not notice.

You need only 10 feet of a running start to make a Jump check without penalty, but the Reflex DC to catch yourself from falling raised to 20.


Again, more stuff later.
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